Xentor
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Post by Xentor on May 24, 2014 7:44:47 GMT -11
It sets a limit, which demands respect...  ...or a swift kick in the fork. Teach your kids to say "no". Teach them to respect "no" when someone else indicates it. Teach them that if someone refuses to stop and continues to impede on your limits, that your verbal and non-verbal "no"-s must and should be enforced physically. Because sometimes, physical force is the only thing you have left to defend your life and that of your loved ones. |
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Xentor
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Post by Xentor on May 24, 2014 7:48:21 GMT -11
By the way, for your information, this image got deleted from an FB group by a human moderator... for inciting violence.
If anyone wishes to claim that teaching folks to defend themselves from abuse falls under the nomer of inciting violence, I'm all ears. I won't be happy and am not likely to change my opinion, but I will listen.
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Cassie
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Post by Cassie on May 24, 2014 21:24:30 GMT -11
I am all for encouraging children and indeed all people to be able to say no and stand up for themselves. I have no objection to people using violence to defend themselves if that is the best option at the time.
I also think that all people should be encouraged to respect that no means no.
However with my teacher's hat on I would also say that children need to be educated to understand when it is inappropriate to say no. Yes it can be tricky and teachers and other people in authority can sometimes take advantage of children; but from a teachers perspective it is very frustrating when kids just refuse to do what you tell them and come back at you with the phrase, " my parents told me that no means no and I never have to do anything I don't want to do!" It happens!
As for that image being deleted by Facebook; crazy!
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Post by pawnman on May 25, 2014 2:44:22 GMT -11
I'm thinking that in the context Xentor initially described, then no does in fact mean no.
However, since it never actually says what that context is, I would say there are plenty of areas where no does open the door to negotiation. "Romantic" contact is not one of those areas.
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